{"id":311,"date":"2009-06-07T13:15:43","date_gmt":"2009-06-07T18:15:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dilettantes.code4lib.org\/?p=311"},"modified":"2009-06-07T13:15:43","modified_gmt":"2009-06-07T18:15:43","slug":"comment-from-an-alternate-universe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/2009\/06\/comment-from-an-alternate-universe\/","title":{"rendered":"Comment from an Alternate Universe"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In a world where library management systems are sophisticated and modern&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I was doing some Google searches about SKOS, trying to figure out the exact distinction between skos:ConceptScheme and skos:Collection (it&#8217;s much more clear to me now) and I came across this article in XML.com:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.xml.com\/pub\/a\/2005\/06\/22\/skos.html\" target=\"_blank\">Introducing SKOS<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The article is fine, but it&#8217;s not what compelled me to write a blog post. \u00c2\u00a0I was struck by a comment on that page titled <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.xml.com\/cs\/user\/view\/cs_msg\/2895\" target=\"_blank\">What about Topic Maps?<\/a><\/strong>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"3\" valign=\"top\">This new W3C standard obviously has a huge overlap with the very mature ISO standard Topic Maps.Topic Maps were originally conceived for (almost) exactly the same problem space as SKOS, and they are widely used. (For example, all major library cataloging software either supports Topic Maps or soon will.)<\/p>\n<p>However, Topic Maps proved to be more generally useful, so they are often compared and contrasted with RDF itself. The surprising difficulty of making Topic Maps and RDF work together is exactly the &#8220;extra level of indirection&#8221; mentioned by the author of this article about SKOS.<\/p>\n<p>It is very strange that neither this article, nor the referenced XTech paper, mentions Topic Maps.<\/p>\n<p>What is the relationship between SKOS and Topic Maps? How does this fit in with the work (as reported In Edd Dumbill&#8217;s\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.oreillynet.com\/pub\/wlg\/5937\">blog<\/a>)<br \/>\non interoperability between Topic Maps and RDF\/OWL?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"font-family: Georgia;\">Now, I have no idea if &#8220;yitzgale&#8221; is some sort of alias of <a href=\"http:\/\/shelter.nu\/blog\/\" target=\"_blank\">Alexander Johannesen<\/a>, let&#8217;s assume &#8220;no&#8221; (for one thing, that comment is far too optimistic about library technology). \u00c2\u00a0The sentence [<em>f<\/em>]<em>or example, all major library cataloging software either supports Topic Maps or soon will<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0is sort of stunning in both the claim it makes and its total lack of accuracy. \u00c2\u00a0I feel pretty confident in my familiarity with library cataloging software and I can say with some degree of certainty that there is no support for topic maps today \u00c2\u00a0(hell, MARC21, MFHD and Unicode support are pushing it &#8211; and those are just incremental changes). \u00c2\u00a0This comment was written four years ago.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>And yet, there&#8217;s part of me that feels robbed. \u00c2\u00a0Where <em>is<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0the topic map support in my library system? \u00c2\u00a0I don&#8217;t even really know anything about TM, but I still feel it would be a damn sight better than what we&#8217;ve got now. \u00c2\u00a0What reality is this that yitzgale is living in, with its fancy library systems and librarians and vendors willing to embrace a radical change in how things are done? \u00c2\u00a0I want in.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I might even be able to jump off my RDF bandwagon for it.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a world where library management systems are sophisticated and modern&#8230; I was doing some Google searches about SKOS, trying to figure out the exact distinction between skos:ConceptScheme and skos:Collection (it&#8217;s much more clear to me now) and I came across this article in XML.com: Introducing SKOS The article is fine, but it&#8217;s not what [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-311","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-libraries"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/311","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=311"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/311\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":313,"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/311\/revisions\/313"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=311"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=311"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rossfsinger.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=311"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}